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PeterWood
That seems very reasonable.
Ladislav
At present, there is only one difference between SAME? and STRICT-EQUAL? for decimals in Rebol3. It is this one:
>> strict-equal? 0.0 -0.0
== true
>> same? 0.0 -0.0
== false
The difference is caused by the fact that 0.0 and -0.0 have different binary representations.
>> to binary! 0.0
== #{0000000000000000}
>> to binary! -0.0
== #{8000000000000000}
PeterWood
So strict-equal? is more strict in R3 than R2.
Ladislav
Yes
PeterWood
That's good.

Ladislav
Hi all, as far as I know, Rebol is considered a high-level cross-platform language. For example, in Windows and in all GCC-compiled platforms it uses two's complement signed integers. I think that to be truly cross-platform, it should use two's complement signed integers on every platform. What do others think on this?
Ladislav
Note: currently, the two's complement signed integer representation is already tested by the core-tests, otherwise it is not enforced.

Ladislav
Please check the ~Humour (my apologies for misusing the group) and #Topaz for the discussion/poll related to undefined variables, #[datatype! unset!], etc.

Arnold
@Reichart Will R4 be open sourced? I have PM ed with Bo about what I thought has to be done about R3.
As well Carl and Earl do not attend to the R3 repo so something has to be done.
In my plan at least 3 sourcekeepers must be assigned.
I think there should be at least three and 2 of three should support an update to have it accepted and if the other one disagrees this must be regarded as you win some you lose some. Good valid arguments will persuade for the better. Besides the 3 keepers, they need to know each others real name and physical address and emailaddress as well as a contactperson to call upon when there has been no contact for a longer period without given reason (holiday).
Any keeper must be replaced when no contact is made over a certain period of time.
Rebolek
That's sure better than your plan to abandon R3 repo totally.
Arnold
I do not know who the lucky ones should be. But if other communities can get the ball rolling so should ours.
Thanks Rebolek!
Bo has agreed to talk to Carl about this.
Rebolek
Anyway, I'm afraid it's hard to find one person to do it, it would be much harder with three.
Arnold
There is so much modesty around...
Well I no one else I will do it, but I need good advice.
Well I => Well if
Geomol
My view on things.
With R2, there were certain shortcommings or errors, that meant, we couldn't finish projects the way, we wanted. I saw R2 as a way to develop cross-platform for the major platforms, Windows, Linux, and OS X. And in a way with very fast development, a short way from idea to product.
For some server-side tasks, R2 was good enough in many ways (approaching perfect), but wanting to do graphics and sound and responsive events, there were obstacles.
The desire for an open-source R2 was there. Then we could fix things ourselves. Not develop new, but fix things to get R2 to work as intended across all platforms.
R3 meant new development, not just a fix of things in R2. But if almost starting over, then it could be from any ground, not only R3. And the world around us changed fast with new mobile platforms. We saw new approaches to solve the problem of 'programming' in efficient and rebolish kind of ways, World, Topaz, Red. I started development of World before Rebol was open source. I don't know if this is the case for Topaz and Red too.
On open source, I see benefit in open source, if things needs to be fixed. I don't always see benefit in open source, when new stuff is being developed. You run into the too many cooks problem. I see huge bloat open source projects all over the place. I am being presented them at university, and I run away in horror. They sucks!
New development should be done by one or very few people, if you want somethings really good out of it. That is my view, and I think, it is true in general. But you can probably find projects, where this is not the case.
I hope, Red succeed. I hope, Topaz succeed (it maybe already did, I haven't followed it). I hope, R3 succeed. I hope, Carl succeed with R4. I will do, what I can to get a success out of the World Programming Language.
There are many old-kind-of-languages out there, and we need new modern next-step future-proof rebolish kind of languages!
Not one such language, but several.

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