AltME: R3-GUI

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Pekr
Well, not sure about the styles, if you want to map to native widgets ...
I still remember Cyphre's remark in Brno - how many usefull widgets are there in the OS anyway? How cross platform are they? So we have fields, areas, buttons, images, radio buttons, check boxes. What about more complex ones, as grids? Win32 API apps look uglier, than old 70ish unix clone. And - design sells. Let's hope, that this time, we are going to dress that :-)
DocKimbel
Red has different needs, like willing to _compile_ as much code as possible vs run it through interpreter. So the actors above need to be defined differently so that the compiler can effectively find and process them.
"Win32 API apps look uglier, than old 70ish unix clone" On each Windows platform, you will get the native OS look'n feel, I don't know what you are talking about.
Pekr
DocKimbel
I had a preview of that in Windows 10... that's what I would call "ugly". ;-)
Pekr
:-)
Robert
Doc, if you use our release on Windows:
>> source load-gui
load-gui: make function! [[
    {Download current Spahirion's R3-GUI module from web.}
    /local data
][
    print "Fetching GUI..."
    either error? data: try [load http://development.saphirion.com/resources/r3-gui.r3] [
        either data/id = 'protocol [print "Cannot load GUI from web."] [do err]
    ] [
        do data
    ]
    exit
]]
>>
DocKimbel
Robert, thanks, downloaded and decompressed it.
Robert
The few docs we have are on our development.saphirion.com web-site. And yes, R3-GUI targets something different then VID or Carl's idea. It's for long-maintenance, business applications. So, not for a quick & dirty approach.
I don't know how often I explained this... If you expect a VID on R3 don't use R3-GUI, it's for full-blown applications.
Pekr
I am not sure it differs much to what Carl prototyped? All R3 GUIs are light years ahead from VID, conceptually ....
I am just skimming thru the Windows 10 universal apps. They have even a Git repo for that. The world is still insane - tonnes of XMLs. If Red wants to link to that natively, not sure yet, how to do it. Most probably generate via some templates.
DocKimbel
"It's for long-maintenance, business applications" Can you elaborate more on that? What are the features that makes it more suitable for business applications?
Pekr
What Robert means is, that no all R3 GUI concepts are easy, but they are flexible to build "whatever" app you envision.
basic gui elements, plus events, chaining, updates, resizing ...
DocKimbel
I never had much trouble building any app I envisioned with R2/VID, it was flexible-enough to me.
Henrik
R3-GUI was developed in a purpose driven manner with some specific apps in mind. That's why for example the table widget is rather complex, because the app needed said features for the table.
also there's some support directly in layout to connect forms to databases.
DocKimbel
We had a few resizing libraries since more than a decade for R2, just not included by default in the View distro. I even wrote my own one and used it in many apps.
Pekr
I really liked Carl's demo - simple, elegant, juicy colors ... and I am still admiring, how VID code could look nice ... You can give it a try, just type - demo
http://2zone.cz/pekr/r3-a97-3-1.exe

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