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Henrik
Writing the NLPP program, one of the very biggest challenges was to make a no-hassle upgrade procedure. This was one of the hardest things to do and also one of the parts that took up most time to code and test.
Geomol
Something is wrong in all this.
I try to see software as tiny bits and pieces, each doing a certain task. Like very simple Lego building blocks. So each piece takes some input (like a function does) and produces an output. If that piece needs to be updated, then it's because it has some error, or that there is a faster way to do, what it already does. If new building blocks arrive, because new software needs them, then they're just added to the system.
If that is done right, then updating should be very simple and only include very little data to be transfered to my system.
GrahamC
In the past I've done upgrades by binary diffs
but then you have to track each binary to get the right diff
Henrik
Geomol, how do you handle changes in configuration structures that way?
Geomol
Couldn't such structures just be small files, each taking care of a certain part of the configuration?
Following this thought, maybe all the mezzanine functions in %cortex.w (in World) should be separate files in a directory? And the shell commands should be separate files in a %libs/shell/ directory.
Reminds me, that I should pick up my database again. It has records as separate files.
GrahamC
well, that's black box theory
but things don't exist in isolation
Geomol
Can't we make them? :)
some-func: func [input1 input2] [...]   ; -> produces some output.
That's isolated, and it should work, even if other functions, it depends on, get updated. The task is to define each function/object as doing one simple thing.
And then implement a system like Erlang, where every piece can be hot-swapped.
GrahamC
so you want to distribute source code
each piece needs to be then signed
Geomol
or virtual machine code
or real machine code
I think, that was what the Elate, that Amiga looked at, what about.
GrahamC
Ok, off topic now ..  can move to ~Chit-chat or ~Humour  :)
Geomol
:)
Andreas
Henrik, the package repositories for older Debian versions are still available, but you'll have to change the URLs.
They are on archive.debian.org, so use a APT source like the following:
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ $RELEASE main contrib
(Replace $RELEASE with the codename of your Debian version.)
Henrik
Yeah, too much work right now, but thanks, anyway. :-)
Maarten
I'm just wondering (really, just that): is dev capacity (i.e. Cyphre GUI. other's on OSX, 64 bit) the limiting factor to accelerate in the short term? Or money?
Andreas
Both, I guess.

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