Trello is about managing a project, right? That's not our problem.
Chris, I am on a Mac and I have also access to AltMe on a Windows PC and I have hardly any trouble with ALtME on the Mac, just have to help it scroll and refresh, sometimes I need to reopen the world because my comment is not coming through, but it is still there to add to the group
Yikes, I'd forgotten about losing messages when it silently disconnects.
Gregg: Trello is fairly open in how you use it. It could be managing a project, it could be managing the resources of a project, it could be channeling the discussion on aspects of the project. As I suggested, it could also be the project.
OK. Show me the best project match on Trello for Ren.
Chris, also why I have put some links for Objective-C and Cocoa bindings in the MacOSX group. For the binding has been done for 'competitor' small languages, so why not for Red or R3 and put them on the map too.
Gregg: I don't know of a project quite like Ren that uses Trello. Perhaps the closest project in recent times is CommonMark that uses a combination of GitHub and Discourse.
Arnold: Mac OS X--another private group that requires logging into AltMe to view.
I'm familiar with CommonMark. The initial spec was solidified before Discourse, correct?
Altme losing messages is mostly a myth
Gregg, just a clarification, Humanistic on GitHub is organization with ten members including you, so feel free to update the stuff there.
Rebolek - 10 members? Oh my, that is almost more, than Rebol and Red counted together :-)
Gregg: I don't know--do you have a reference for the origins of the original specs? Seems beside the point though--to reiterate, there is already more than one island of discussion happening on the formalisation of Rebol (whether that is Ren--if you think of it as such--or just a formalisation of Rebol). Perhaps that's for the best, all told. Just felt it worth pointing out and trying to suggest an alternative.
Petr: rediculous--I've been using AltMe as long as anyone, I'm painfully aware that it's more than 'mostly' a myth.
-- Ridiculous, argh: where's the edit button?
Petr: SO Chat room for [Rebol and Red] (and none of which are Brian D.)
...has 12 owners...
Perhaps the discussion about using an alternative to AltME could be continued in a more relevant channel. Perhaps self would be appropriate.
Ren isn't just a formalization of Rebol, since it isn't compatible, though it is in a sense. ren-data.org says what it is, with a strong influence being a desire for interchange between REBOL-like languages.