AltME: R3 Building and Porting

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GregP
Cyphre, if you think we could collaborate on this, maybe you could guide us?
TomBon
as stated above R3 is quite fragmented and adding another loosing end (SDL) doesn't help much. from my pov R3 is well positioned but needs a 'best of branch' unification.
as cyphre said, adding the missing parts for mac could be done much quicker, therefore my question what is needed to do so.
moreover, iirc R3 is already designed to switch backends (renderer?) later, e.g. agg -> cairo but since i am not deep into rebol atm i not sure at which state this whole thing is.
TomBon
another thing, is it right that there are 3 major branches atm?
original, attronix, saphirion?
is there a matrix avail. to see the diffs (e.g. +/- FFI / encap / call / patches etc.) without checking the sources?
Maxim
we are slowly working towards unifiying the commercial Rebol Branches .
The idea being that this one:  https://github.com/Rebol-Alliance  should eventually become a junction point for the members of the alliance.
There will be phases to this unification and there will be several people from various groups, able to accept contributions.   Note that we encourage the community at large to contribute, and when acceptible, these will be rolled in the next version.
Pull Requests  will be reviewed by different people from different companies which have large code bases.  The idea being that R3 needs to get stable at this point.  there needs to be more collaboration and this is the first step.
We are moving ahead steadily,  taking many steps to make it work.  we are already 6-7 companies depending on how you count things and will be building up the project for all of november.  I am aiming Dec 1st  as a release date for public launch.  
I wasn't going to go public too much for at least one or two more weeks, but there is so much going on with people talking about R3 forks and (rightly) saying something should be done...  I feel like people should know that a few Rebol champions are doing their best to become team players  :-)
Pekr
Who's "we"?
other than that, sounds promissing ....
Maxim
all that will be revealed in due time but consider the current major players like atronix involved.  Not all members want their names to be public.
amacleod
That's very welcome news!
GregP
On AGG, I think it is a great piece of code and I'm not sure Cairo is able to do all AGG can do. I don't see a need for a change to Cairo for now.
Maxim
AGG seems much faster than Cairo to me.  though Cairo has been maintained for longer, so it may have new features not available in AGG

Kaj
It was. Cairo became a lot faster lately, so I don't know how they compare now
I always "love" how people get angry over their project called slow, and then ten years later they gloat over making it much faster
Andreas
TomBon: there's even 4 major branches at the moment:
- reboltech (aka mainline, rebol/rebol)
- rebolsource (aka community, rebolsource/r3)
- saphirion (saphirion/saphir)
- atronix (zsx/r3)
No quick overview matrix, unfortunately. Probably worth doing. Or maybe wait for the Rebol Alliance stuff :)
Andreas
The gist of it, feature-wise:
- reboltech/mainline: baseline
- rebolsource/community: mainline + 64-bit
- saphirion: community + https + win32 view + bugfixes
- atronix: saphirion + linux view + udp + linux CALL + ffi + encap + more bugfixes
Another factor is immediate platform support:
- mainline and community come with a relatively large set of build target platforms
- saphirion currently has immediate build scripts for the big three (linux, osx, win32) and android
- atronix currently has immediate build scripts for linux and win32
Ah yes, of course: in the features above, add "android view" to saphirion:
append saphirion android-view
Kaj
Were those sources included?
Andreas
The sources to the Android View port have not been released so far, as far as I'm aware.
(not publicly)
Kaj
Right, so the feature is not really there
Andreas
There's a working APK you can download.
If that's sufficient or not for one to consider the feature to be there, is a personal decision.

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